Thursday, October 1, 2009

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Shinji Shobogenzo, the collection of koans from Dogen Master Dogen Sangha

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One day, Master Sekito Kisen visited the master Seigen Gyôshi Jogo temple on Mount Seigen in the District of Ki. Seigen master asked him Where do you get?

Sekito Master replied: Sokei From Mt.

Seigen Master (by grabbing his fly swatter) said: Is there something like this at Mount Sokei?

Sekito Master replied: No, not at Mount Sokei, or even in India.

Master Seigen said You never been to India, is not it?

Sekito Master replied: If I went to India, I find a flapper like yours

Master Seigen said You never been to India, so you should say something in line with your experience.

Sekito Master replied: The master could he express it in two or three concrete words, instead of letting me do everything I Kisen?

Master Seigen said It's not that I refuse to say something to you, but if I did, you would not be able to reach the target by yourself in the future.



COMMENT Nishijima Roshi

Master Seigen Gyôshi was a disciple of Master Daikan Eno, the sixth patriarch of China, and Sekito Kisen was to become his disciple. Mount Sokei Sekito arrived where he had lived until his master Daikan mort.Maître Seigen was quite proud of his lectures on Buddhism and, waving his fly whisk, he asked if Sekito conferences Mount Sokei Buddhism also explained well as his. The hossu, a flapper ornamental badge of Buddhist masters, is a symbol of the Buddhist truth.
In response, master Sekito uses hossu as a concrete symbol of the teachings of Master Seigen. He says there's nowhere lessons that are quite similar to Seigen or to where it happens, or India. Master
Seigen noted that Sekito could not find India, as it had never been there, but Sekito replies that it is possible to find the same teachings in India, the birthplace of Buddha.
However, master Seigen found that this response was unrealistic, and said that we should only speak from personal experience. Master
Sekito felt a bit speechless about a satisfactory answer, and asked the teacher for help.
Finally, Seigen Gyôshi master tells him that it would be easy, but do Sekito deprive of the opportunity to express his own truth.

The story structure contains four different views. The first is the idealist and intellectual, represented by the question master Seigen Conferences Buddhist, symbolized by the fly swatter.
In the second view, Sekito sees things from a materialistic point of view: the physical hossu hossu --- the real master is Seigen --- this is only one place, not in India or to Sokei.
Seigen Master is not satisfied and want to hear something more realistic. He knew that Sekito had never been to India, he would ask him to speak from experience, and no assumptions. From the perspective of ultimate master Seigen knew Sekito should learn how to express her own truth. That was something nobody could do it for him.

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